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		<title>By: Rake girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rake girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for sharing the info.. i love PHP and ajax..i design dynamyc web pages . It has evolved to include a command line interface capability and can be used in standalone graphical applications...</description>
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		<title>By: Scriptorama &#187; Review: PHP&#124;Architect&#8217;s guide to programming with Zend Framework</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scriptorama &#187; Review: PHP&#124;Architect&#8217;s guide to programming with Zend Framework</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 06:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] PHP&#124;Architect&#8217;s Guide to Programming with Zend Framework, written by Cal Evans. After reading Ivo Jansch&#8217; review I got excited about it. I had been meaning to look into Zend Framework some more after a brief [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Scriptorama.nl &#187; Review: PHP&#124;Architect&#8217;s guide to programming with Zend Framework</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scriptorama.nl &#187; Review: PHP&#124;Architect&#8217;s guide to programming with Zend Framework</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The PHP&#124;Architect's Guide to Programming with Zend Framework, written by Cal Evans. After reading Ivo Jansch' review I got excited about it. I had been meaning to look into Zend Framework some more after a brief [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cal Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.jansch.nl/2008/04/18/book-review-phpas-guide-to-programming-with-zend-framework/comment-page-1/#comment-117691</link>
		<dc:creator>Cal Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 22:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ivo,
Thanks for the great review. I'll take the notes you've given me and work on the problem areas.

@Jon,
I'll work on ACL, I knew I should have covered it but when writing, you've got to leave something out if you want to hit the deadline.  :) Zend_Form was actually released after the book but yes, if there's a second edition, it will be in there.

Thanks again for the great input.

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Thanks for the great review. I&#8217;ll take the notes you&#8217;ve given me and work on the problem areas.</p>
<p>@Jon,<br />
I&#8217;ll work on ACL, I knew I should have covered it but when writing, you&#8217;ve got to leave something out if you want to hit the deadline.  <img src='http://www.jansch.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Zend_Form was actually released after the book but yes, if there&#8217;s a second edition, it will be in there.</p>
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		<title>By: Reviews &#124; ZF Guide</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reviews &#124; ZF Guide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: PHP Weekly Reader - April 20th 2008 : phpaddiction</title>
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		<dc:creator>PHP Weekly Reader - April 20th 2008 : phpaddiction</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] book on php streams due out in Q3 2008. Thats a topic I never thought there might be a book for. Ivo Jansch has a review for those interested in php&#124;a’s Guide to Programming with Zend [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ivo Jansch&#8217;s Blog: Book Review: php&#124;a&#8217;s Guide to Programming with Zend Framework &#124; Development Blog With Code Updates : Developercast.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ivo Jansch&#8217;s Blog: Book Review: php&#124;a’s Guide to Programming with Zend Framework &#124; Development Blog With Code Updates : Developercast.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 13:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jon Rhoades</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Rhoades</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Having got the book 2 weeks ago, I'd agree that it's well written and very entertaining.  My biggest problem is not what's in it, but what's missing - it could (and perhaps should) be twice the size.  There are many things components of the framework I would have liked to have seen included - ACL, Lucene and most importantly Zend_Form (although I realise that Zend_Form is a very recent addition to the framework, so perhaps one for edition 2!).

As a beginner to the Zend framework I'd really like a bit more housekeeping instruction for example where do I put my Zend_Auth &#38; ACL components, should I put a given function in the model or the controller etc - I know there is no right or wrong way - but due to the sparse nature of documentation at the moment I just need a way! 

Overall the book has helped me greatly with the framework and I could recommend it to anybody learning the framework - although they will still need to use the documentation and API guide extensively  to create a full application.</description>
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<p>Having got the book 2 weeks ago, I&#8217;d agree that it&#8217;s well written and very entertaining.  My biggest problem is not what&#8217;s in it, but what&#8217;s missing - it could (and perhaps should) be twice the size.  There are many things components of the framework I would have liked to have seen included - ACL, Lucene and most importantly Zend_Form (although I realise that Zend_Form is a very recent addition to the framework, so perhaps one for edition 2!).</p>
<p>As a beginner to the Zend framework I&#8217;d really like a bit more housekeeping instruction for example where do I put my Zend_Auth &amp; ACL components, should I put a given function in the model or the controller etc - I know there is no right or wrong way - but due to the sparse nature of documentation at the moment I just need a way! </p>
<p>Overall the book has helped me greatly with the framework and I could recommend it to anybody learning the framework - although they will still need to use the documentation and API guide extensively  to create a full application.<!-- google_ad_section_end --></p>
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